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Raw video: Three family home burns in Enfield, Connecticut.

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A fire in a three family home yesterday morning on Park Avenue in Enfield, Connecticut. One firefighter suffered a minor hand injury.

According to the description with the video by drummer112093 at YouTube, the fire was handled by the Thompsonville FD with mutual aid from Enfield, North Thompsonville, Shaker Pines, and Hazardville.

WVIT-TV:

Arriving firefighters battled the elements as well as the flames.

“The wind was a huge factor that really hampered our operations,” said Thompsonville Fire Chief Frank Alaimo.

The home was a complete loss, so firefighters focused on saving the surrounding houses.

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  • SB

    Wow, that thing probably went to part ten! What a fire and attack. Wonder how much water they flowed. The initial attack shows what a deck gun and a blitz nozzle can do. The only real negative I saw was the placement of the first ladder. If they could have got it up and going early on and put that nozzle right through the second and third floor windows, they
    could have had a better knock down, especially on the third floor.
    But all in all, pretty decent job. Stubborn fire. Thank goodness for that second engine coming in from the opposite direction (right side). Good thing to go ahead and bring that third ladder in on that side although a little delayed.

    I’m worn out just watching it. I need a bottle of water!

  • Bob Sacamento

    can I get a deck gun “heh” in front of the building “heh”and someone that knows how to operate a throttle”heh” –amen!!

  • IAFFCAPTAIN

    Well…..Big fire, Big water. The initial lines placed in operation were 1 3/4″, with most of the second floor showing fire….here is the quote from the Chief as printed by the news…“The wind was a huge factor that really hampered our operations,” said Thompsonville Fire Chief Frank Alaimo. What really hampered your operations was the over abundance of BTU’s and not enough water to reduce those BTU’s!!!!
    Once they got the big lines and “deck guns” in operation…the fire began to be controlled…

  • jay

    1st in Ladder was running with 3 for day shift. They have been cut back by management. They pulled there 2 inch line and we’re making progress on 2nd when the wind drove the fire right at them and they had had to evacuate. For some reason command had the next 3 apparatus come in the opposite way and the next due ladder could not make the front. All in all, the exposures were saved and there were only minor injuries.

    • Tom

      C.H.A.O.S

      • CHAOS

        Hey, I resemble that remark!!!

        LOL

        • Tom

          thats why I added the periods, so no confused it with you.

  • FlaJay

    I agree with SB. No fooling around. No one with their hands in their pockets looking for something to do. Everyone expected to do some fire fighting is wearing an airpack. They worked aggressively and in concert with one another to darken-down the fire and protect the downwind exposure. Yeah… the first-in Truck overshot their spot by a couple of addresses and really could have been placed on the opposite side of the road further from the overhead obstructions. If they’d gotten the aerial up, (if in front of the residence) it would have been almost dead vertical to avoid the wires.
    And the use of a deluge gun! I loved it. After seeing some of the recent videos on here where it takes forever to get a hoseline going, there’s nothing wrong with deploying this remarkable tool if you’ve got water coming quickly. Bravo, Brothers.

  • 95%er

    SB, did we watch the same video?

    cause all I saw was a whole bunch of people doing stuff but not much coordination. a whole lot of hose on the street for not a lot of water flowing.

    the blitzfire didn’t get charged for 4 minutes.

    the first due quint didn’t have good position.

    the second due ladder was raised when it was 3 doors down.

    the 2nd due engine could have pulled up 20 more feet and knocked most of the fire with their deck gun. instead their angle left them unable to hit much.

    yes the wind was strong. happens a lot in the spring.

    yes the fire went out. probably used up most of its fuel.
    no, the neighbors homes didn’t burn up.

    we can do better.

  • Scooter

    Big difference when the 2 1/2 went into operation. 54 Engine could have saved the day if they could have got the wagon pipe flowing quicker. Strike Da Box! K

  • DD

    Why wasn’t the wagon pipe/deluge gun/ deck gun/ whatever you wanna call a 1000gpm nozzle the first stream in place? Granted I didn’t get a chance to see what the company saw when they first pulled up.

  • Scooter487

    Wow 95%er. you should put some videos up of where you work so we can all learn how to do it right. Where is “Perfect Town Fire and Rescue”? The crews in this video did an amazing job with attacking the fire and keeping the fire to the original fire building. Nice work!!!

    • 95%er

      Really? Amazing job? You have taken a professional critique as a personal attack on the troops. Wrong. It is never the crews fault. Middle and upper management are at fault. Good fighters coming to work are good people. But managing them and directing them are the most important issue we face on the fireground. Firefighters are amazing people. What is an acceptable manner to look at a situation and honestly critique it? Is it possible to learn from an event if the analyst wasn’t there? What are your benchmarks for success? If the neighbor home didn’t burn and nobody got hurt……I guess it was better than the alternatives. Sorry I ruffled your feathers. I was taught by older officers who never accepted acceptable as a standard.

  • willowbay

    I agree with 95%er.

  • Jay Flanagan

    I was on the first in quint for this fire. We were running 3 for the shift. Upon arrival we tried to position as best could be due over head wires, which you probably can’t see in the video, which run across the street between all the buildings. Very narrow space to sneak into. Since running 3 we operate our Quint as an Engine first. First line pulled was a 2″ line which we knocked down the outside fire on the number 2 and 3 floor porches. We then went up the interior stairway to the second floor where we encountered heavy fire once we opened the apartment door. We flowed water and were making headway when the wind shifted and turned everything really dark and hot really fast. The first video begins just before we began our exit. If there are any more questions regarding this fire or how we operate, please feel free to ask. I do not hide behind any screen names and look forward to any comments and lively debate.

    F/F Jay Flanagan
    Thompsonville Fire Local 3059
    jflanagan18@att.net

  • Brian

    All considering the windy conditions and balloon frame house, it was a great save. One fubar was not getting that ladder up. Those wires they parked under were phone and cable. Cut them, tear them down when you lift the ladder etc. Not raising the ladder and getting that tool in service because of a couple of non power service drops makes no sense. The guy on the deck gun was even blasting water right through the secondaries. ( 120/240 volt service to houses). It’s important to be able to identify the wires on your overheads. You don’t want to hit a primary by mistake (7,600 volts average), but you don’t want to let cable and TV get in you way either. But again, good hard work otherwise.

    • Jay Flanagan

      Being the Acting Officer on the First in Ladder/Quint my thought coming in was trying to position to get the ladder up. Yes we pulled past a little bit. By the time my driver heard me say stop we were past my point. Could we have backed up? Sure, but I thought about the second quint coming in behind us an taking the other corner. They were told to come in the opposite way by command so we actually blocked them. Oh well, some learning points to take home. We are sorta new to the Quint thing. We have had it for 2 years but can’t really get from the higher ups what they want done first with only 3 guys. Not an excuse on my end, I take some of the blame as I usually ride backwards and very rarely get to sit up front and make these calls. I was in engine company mode first with making an attack, Ladder pipe was in the back of my head. Of note probably being asked, why not pull a 2.5″? There is only one 200′ 2.5″ on the rig with a blitz gun attached. I went for the 2″ line which we knocked a lot of outside fire on and then went interior, all this before video was taken. It worked until the wind kicked up. http://soundcloud.com/scott-prentiss/44-park-ave-enfield-ct-4-27 The link provided is audio for the call. First in company is ladder 21 which is our quint.

  • Seasoned Vet

    Maybe with all the white helmets, they didn’t know which one was really in charge and all did their own thing. It’s hard to tell, just my observation.

  • clay

    Jay, thanks for your input on what was done by first arriving companies before the videos started. By the looks of the rest of the videos you did a good knock on what you had, balloon frame with fire everywhere and wind pushing. I appalaud your attitude with the critiquing being done on here, alot of guys would become a little pisssed. Not every fire goes as planned and I believe you can learn and improve from each fire. Believe me I’m a line officer and some of the calls I’ve made when first becoming an officer I just shake my head but I learned and improved. Big fire equals big water.
    Good job and stay safe!

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  • Crowbar

    Jay,

    Thanks for posting your comments. It’s rare that we get to hear from someone who was on scene much less one of the officers. Sorry you weren’t able to put the ladder pipe into operation earlier but with the staffing you describe it’s understandable.

  • Mike

    Nice to see your new ladder 21. We are the department who has your old ladder 21 up in northern Maine. It has been put to use several times in the past 2 years of use at major fires in the area. Working with a ladder with a crew of 3 is not what any department wants. Tough job in very windy conditions.

  • jbc

    Quints can work well for smaller career departments, especially when spec’d out properly. it’s all about options. I am used to running similar and have 2 identical quints on first due. Try to position 1st as ladder when possible but go to work as engine. Options exist of course. 2nd quint usually comes in opposing so we can scrub all sides. With 3 it’s very hard, many who are used to 4 cannot fathom. But good size up and priorities in the right order make a difference. As more companies and off-duty personnel arrive the sticks are in place and ready for use providing obstructions aren’t an issue. It’s especially difficult at night. Proper placement is crucial and sometimes it doesn’t go as well. Some barriers CAN be removed, providing tunnel vision doesn’t prevent it. Such as utility wires, tree limbs, etc…all things that can be removed. The 2′ line is an excellent choice for short-staffed departments. with the right size tip it’s not hard to advance wet and can throw 220 gpm. Our quint (75′ rear mount) has good options of 3 cross lay preconnects including 2.5″, 2″ and 1.75″ as well as a 1.75″ on the front bumper and a static bed in the rear of 750′ of 2.5″ and 5″. The 2.5″ preconnect has a “Vindicator” heavy nozzle and can be changed to a Blitzfire if necessary. Wind-driven fire is normal for us as well, but it is a game changer for sure.

  • The Deuce House

    Jay,

    I commend your efforts and think you had your head in the right place and was striving to accomplish a very attainable goal. The only question i have, here again not bashing, is when you went interior the second time, why not make your way up to the third floor? Was it possible? Otherwise really good job.

    • Jay Flanagan

      My Crew was sent to the second floor along with another company. There was one company assigned to go to the third but I believe they ran short on hose. They pulled a 200′ around the back then tried to get it up to the third. After coming out, I said to another guy we should have took the third and let the other crews have the second as our line went up the front and we had a straight shot. More lessons learned.

  • Jay Flanagan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFBspXVIdio

    Pre arrival video. This shows what we showed up with and what we had for the first few minutes.