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Helmet-cam video: Initial attack at basement fire in Farmingdale, NY home.



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Helmet-cam video in two parts (above & below) from Will Merrins from a basement fire yesterday in a home at 11 Vernon Street in the Village of Farmingdale, New York (Nassau County on Long Island). The video shows the response from the Farmingdale Fire Department. Here's the description with Part 1:

Village of Farmingdale, NY. 12/28/2013. Firefighter John Senia's helmet camera footage of the working basement fire at 11 Vernon St. Part 1 Warning-graphic language

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  • Anonymous

    Basement Fire Video of the Year!

     

  • http://Www. Backyardigan Fire Dept.

    Make what push,!?! #backyardbreathers get in there !!! 

  • RichT.

    Nice work. Sign that officer up !

  • MidwestFF

    Solid work by the Captain directing his crew, good push on the fire by attack crews.

  • Back stepper

    Very we'll done brothers. 

  • DaveyH

    Great job and good training video. Nice to see aggressive firefighting. Unfortunately many brigades would have stood back and lost the building if no life risk was involved.

  • Volunteer for life

    Great job by a great volly crew.

  • OldCityCaptain

    Great job!!!! Lets send this video to Engine8ajc….those who follow Statter911 will remember backin October, the video that was posted by this chuckle head of their basement fire. It did not go well at all for the crew of Engine 8. Thankfully, they had some real firefighters on the other rigs coming on the first alarm to save the house.

      Give it a look to see the differences in a good fireground officer, and a bad fireground officer. Statter911, October 5th. Jersey City helmet cam video…Enjoy!

    Again, Strong work from Farmingdale NY!

  • on the job

    Oldcitycaptain, I thought the same thing watching this video. Thats how you attack a basement fire…… NICE WORK !! by all stay strong and stay low.

  • Thats Right

    REALLY?? "great work", "good push", etc??

    I hate when people "Monday Morning" Quarterback fire department related videos. Mostly because most of us weren't at the incident. But, I do have a few questions. Why are we hitting the fire from outside the occupied home? Also, it shouldn't take several minutes to stretch a line, get geared-up and start making an attack. The more time we waste, the larger the fire gets. This obviously means conditions become more dangerous.

    On the positive side of the video, the Officer In-Charge does a good job leading a (what seems) newer fireman into (most likely) his first decent basement fire.

    All in all, a nice display of actions at a single family home with good audio of different positions on a crew. I'm actually surprised the safety police didn't start in on the video first, lol.

  • thefyreman

    Good job on this one!  The only thing I question – and I see this a lot these days – is why do a lot of these guys not put the SCBA facepiece on while they are enroute?  Back in the earlier days when the regulator was on the straps of the apparatus and you had to thread in the hose, that made it a little unwieldy and the facepiece would usually fog up, but with the regulator on the facepiece and only a quarter-turn to lock it in, wouldn't it make things simpler on the fireground to step off the wagon with your facepiece already donned, then just attach the regulator when you're ready to go interior?

    • Molly

      This was discussed at my dept recently. Several reasons for and against, which ultimately ends up with the decission being situationally dependent and also personal preference.

      Crews arriving with clear instructions to go inside as soon as they arrive often mask up enroute, but crews arriving first often wait until a plan of action is decided after a good size up. Again, let the circumstances dictate the rules.

    • jay

      They're from NY… it's freezing in December. Breathing even for a minute into a facepiece without air flowing to clean off the mask can fog it up as the moisture in your breath condenses on the lens.

  • 6912truckie

    and they picked up their own hydrant. Nice work.

  • THTMAN

    Overall, very nice job by the 1st engine. Not being there but viewing the video some of the questions asked should be easy to see.

    1) Several minutes to start the attack? – Looks like they stretched right away and waited in the front for the officer to determine if the line was going to the rear or through the front door. When they got the line charged you hear the nozzle man state he has low pressure (nice job checking the line and not just bleeding it).

    2) You can see there is fire at the ceiling just inside the bilco door. Why not knock it down and make it easier to advance down the stairs? Could they have shut down the nozzle a little sooner? maybe / maybe not - they did fine. 

    3) Having your facepiece on before arrival impedes your vision and may affect your ability to size up and even communicate amongst each other. Calling for water and getting your facepiece on with gloves is a matter of practice.

    Again nice job by Farmingdale!

  • Hmmm

    Putting the mask on before you are on scene limits you vision, and your ability to do your own size up 

  • Cap2101

    Nice knockdown of a basement fire. Really glad to see this department using smoothbore nozzles! GPM's and big water droplets put out a hell of a lot more fire than a combi-nozzle. I thought it was funny how the nozzleman wanted more pressure during the attack. I'm guessing he was more used to using a Combination nozzle at the academy. Unlike the previous comments, I have no problem with the dash of water from the outside bfore entry. I also don't want to see guys coming off the rigs with their facepieces on. The Captain did a thorough 360 of the structure before entry. No need to rush in. That saves lives! 

     

    • Cap2101

      I agree with the low pressure during bleeding, but after attack initialized, it seem very adequate. Even the captain tells him it's ok inside. Outstanding job by all involved.

       

  • ThatGuy

    I can't believe all these comments on here. Obviously 90% of you people dont know how a real fireground opperation should be ran. Speed it up, a little bit and make a quick interior attack. The actions in this video were filled with so much useless uneeded banter and movements…. 

     

     

    • Mack Seagrave

      Useless banter? The company officer was leading a young, inexperienced crew into a cellar fire with zero visibility and high heat. He was doing what any competent company officer would do, he was coaching the attack team and getting the job done. Kudos to these Brothers for a job well done.

  • Back stepper

    At my academy will teach our probies from day one to NOT put your face piece on til you are about to enter the bldg. face piece fogs up, takes away your perifferal vision and gives guys tunnel vision. I've seen guys trip over objects in there way b/c they can't see it. With your gloves on a trained ff should be able to mask up( meaning put your face piece on) in under 10 seconds. Jmo and I've seen the big city do it that way and it works for them. 

  • RJ in florida

    (from an ex long island vollie): since a good chunk of FDNY live on long island and are in some of the departments i can see (and hear) the FDNY influence in their operations.

    still it was a good stop but I like haveing vent work done as i'm going in eiher PPV or a fan pulling out from another window…but those days for me ar long gone since we do not have basements in SW florida

  • clay

    Tactics and safety from what can be seen on video could be picked apart a little bit but about every one of my incidents could be critiqued and improved on for the next one. What I saw and more importantly what I heard was an officer leading and instructing what “appeared” to be a crew with not alot of fires under there belt.
    Excellent job, with 13 years as an officer on my dept you want to be able to harness that enthusiasm for the job and fill in the cracks with knowledge for future fires.
    Needless banter and talk, I don’t think so, it’s the officer verbalizing every little action he wanted done along with pep talks mixed in. I’ve done the same thing and then after everything has calmed down we’ll go over what we did and why.
    Again pick apart what you will from this incident but every fire whether it be a little car fire or a full blown house fire can be used to help pass down what knowledge you’ve gained through your years of experience with the “newer” firefighters. It’s what I’d call brotherhood.

  • Depressed Fireman

    [safety officer rant] SEAT BELTS???[safety officer rant]

    It wasn't the quickest attack ever, so why be so quick to mount the rig and never buckle up?